The commentator Laurie
posts a message on 6/11/2007 8:21:20 AM
Mike, I would enjoy hiking through the area with you and anyone else that wants to join you. I don't know who Richard Schmidt is, but his name is familiar. The part where Heston chases Terrill, before they enter the canyon is part of RRC. It's an awesome place. They hold Easter Sunrise Services there. I know scenes were shot in LC because I recognize some of the places we've camped. I still think the winding part of Blanco might be LC the way it used to be. We shall see. Do you want to exchange e-mails or what?
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The commentator Mike Thompson
posts a message on 6/8/2007 10:42:28 AM
Laurie, and anyone else who may be having the same problem posting on this TBC Message Board: I emailed the creator of this site, Mr. Steven Gordon, and he says to post your message without filling in the subject line. Also, I’ve collected random information regarding a scene in TBC of particular interest to me – That’s the last sequence of the film, when McKay and Julie Maragon ride out of Blanco Canyon and down onto the desert. If you watch this section on DVD, reverse back to the sequence when McKay first rides out of the desert with Alfonso Bedoya and approaches Terrill and Heston resting their horses at the entrance of Blanco Canyon. Notice the green grass as they ride in? Kind of misplaced isn’t it, especially compared to the brown scrub brush at the entrance with Terrill’s bunch when they finally get there. Martha Crawford said she served as the double for Jean Simmons in the last sequence, and that she thinks that area is not near RRC, but further north, perhaps closer to Stockton. Also, according to Richard Schmidt, a Mr. Carlo Gaberchek told him that he thought it was done outside the park on a cliff overlooking Highway 14, somewhere. It seems logical that it was done somewhere further north in California, since Martha did not travel far from Stockton during that particular sequence's filming. No one I’ve contacted so far is sure about its location. Anyone on this site have any more clues?
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The commentator Mike Thompson
posts a message on 6/8/2007 10:07:38 AM
Laurie: Concerning your post offering help as a possible "tour Guide" of TBC film locations in Red Rock Canyon. My name is Mike Thompson and I live in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. I'm planning on vacationing in the Grand Canyon this July, and then will briefly visit Red Rock Canyon near Cantil and you (July 19th – 22nd), scouting the place out a bit before coming back possibly in October to hike TBC film location sites in earnest, with the intention of making full use of my digital camera. I recently bought a book titled "A Field Guide to Motion Picture Locations at Red Rock Canyon", by Richard Schmidt, who lives near there also, and he says he has been through the narrow, curving TBC canyon sequence section you mentioned some time previously, and that it is deep in Jawbone Canyon, not Last Chance. Apparently, the northern mouth of Last Chance Canyon in RRC is where Major Terrill and Charlton Heston rest their horses before entering "Blanco Canyon" during the last part of the film, but he thinks the canyon-walled sequences were in Jawbone Canyon, “an area 5 miles west of the Park [RRC]”, which by now suffers some mining damage. He is checking his field notes to be sure. He even offered to meet me in July and possibly help me hunt it down. Would anyone else be interested in hiking with me through this and other TBC film locations there at Red Rock this October?
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Test
posts a message on 6/7/2007 9:30:04 PM
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The commentator Martha
posts a message on 5/21/2007 1:33:24 PM
Yes Dennis I watch the opening over and over. You can close your eyes and hear the jingling of the harness. To me it is living a dream.
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The commentator Dennis Spear
posts a message on 5/21/2007 1:12:51 PM
I'll check on the recommendation to contact for scripts. Just reflected on the music for TBC again. It was innovative. Saul Bass's opening sequence with the music was wonderful. Check out the Bass opening to North by Northwest. Nearly all Bass openings are animated, but the TBC opening is pure cinematography with type.
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The commentator Martha
posts a message on 5/20/2007 3:36:40 PM
Dennis - I have wracked my brain trying to come up with a suggestion for you. The best I can do is suggest that you contact either Tony Peck or
Cecilia Peck (Greg's children). Greg was the co-producer of TBC. Contact them thru the Screen Actor's Guild and ask the guild to forward the letters. They will usually forward mail to the respective agents so that eventually the star or actor will receive the mail. Greg had a lot of power there - he is the one who hired me. Also Sy Bartlett, one of the screen writers, was a good friend of Greg's who wrote or re-wrote most of his scripts. He was on the location all the time. There may be access this way to some of the archives by contacting the children. Good luck.
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The commentator Dennis Spear
posts a message on 5/20/2007 1:33:18 PM
Checked on eBay a few weeks ago. Nothing there that shoes an official script. TBC still is the premiere movie against violence as a method of conflict resolution. Way ahead of its time. If anyone finds a script, let me know. Thanks
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The commentator Laurie
posts a message on 5/20/2007 9:49:25 AM
Dennis,
Have you looked on eBay?
Laurie
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The commentator Dennis Spear
posts a message on 5/18/2007 1:21:59 AM
Still trying to find a script from TBC. Anyone have any idea where one is? Just watched the movie again and really like Martha's horsemanship. She deserved the Golden Boot award in 2005. Gotta find a script.
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The commentator Laurie
posts a message on 5/17/2007 7:29:04 PM
I have been having trouble getting a message to post, but I will try again.
I live in the Red Rock area and would like to play "tour guide" for anyone that plans to visit the area. Unfortunately, summer is almost here & unless you go early in the day, IT'S HOT!
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The commentator Martha
posts a message on 4/19/2007 7:28:54 PM
Wish you all could have a look at my web page as on the top of the index is my name and that page has more of the Golden Boot pics on it. Second Running has been my web site for 10 years. Talk soon. Let me know. You can e-mail me from there.
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The commentator Dennis Spear
posts a message on 4/19/2007 11:03:37 AM
Martha - Good to see your message. I've been waiting for your CA trip so we can meet. It was sad you couldn't come as planned earlier. I enjoy viewing the Golden-Boot images. Still looking for a copy of the script. Your movie still holds up over time.
--Dennis
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The commentator Martha
posts a message on 4/19/2007 10:46:12 AM
Hi all - so good to check in with you again. Things pretty quiet here as we had a fairly tough winter for we sissies in this area. Most exciting thing for me is that I am going on the Mule Ride into the Grand Canyon in October. When it comes to the steep hills maybe I can pretene it is the last scene in the Big Country. That was Chuck Roberson with me not Greg. I got a hat to wear that is almost identical to the one Greg wears in 'our' movie. I will replay it again in my mind over and over. I have been so laid back wouldn't it be awful if I needed a box to get on the mule? Have double up at the gym. So good to chat again. My trip to California has not materialized as the facility for the riding clinic is not finished as yet.
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The commentator Mike Thompson
posts a message on 4/18/2007 6:52:20 PM
Howdy! (Or should I say Good Morning??): Yes, I too have been fascinated with The Big Country, since childhood, in fact, and am wondering if anyone associated with this site would be interested in answering a few questions regarding a vacation I’m planning on taking to Red Rock Canyon soon, with the intention of capturing most of TBC’s canyon filming locations there with my digital camera and posting them for all of you. I’ve done a little research, which I’d like to run by anyone here who may be interested.
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The commentator Stewart Hanson
posts a message on 1/4/2007 3:34:31 PM
I've loved this film since it was first made back in 1958, lost track of the number of times I've seen it, I think it's got probably the greatest music ever written for film, certainly in the Western genre, and when Elmer Bernstein's always in the reckoning that's saying a lot. I've always wanted to know where it was filmed, now I know. Maybe I'll visit someday, but it's a long way from England.
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posts a message on 8/5/2006 6:53:56 PM
Bill - Thanks for the update on images. Have not heard from Martha in some time. Laurie - would you mind roaming RRC if some of us come down from Northern CA? - Still looking for anyone with a script from TBC. This is still one of the best anti-war films ever made.
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posts a message on 8/5/2006 2:09:36 PM
Response to Laurie, The scenes showing the curving canyon and the death of Major Terrill are located in
"Last Chance Canyon", just before RRC.
These trails are not easy access and a 4x4 is recommended.
Hope Martha still there and can update us regarding the last year award video???.
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posts a message on 8/5/2006 10:11:45 AM
I've not posted here for ages, but always enjoy reading them. Thanks so much for the cool pictures of orvis ranch & red rock canyon. I live only 30 minutes from red rock canyon.
What has puzzled me for ages is where the scenes in the movie when they are riding through the curving blanco canyon. Such as at the end where Ives and bickford kill each other. Can anyone solve that problem? Thanks again.
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posts a message on 7/10/2006 10:49:17 AM
I have not seen anyone comment for quite some time. I do hope Martha is doing well with the award and am still looking for a copy of the script for TBC.
Any update on scrips?
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